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		<title>By: ArnimS</title>
		<link>http://jordanmechner.com/chavez-ravine/#comment-12361</link>
		<dc:creator>ArnimS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a film like this to bring the human cost surrounding &#039;eminent domain&#039; close to people; my thanks go to Jordan and all involved in making it.

But to derive lessons from such histories we must go beyond the particular and seek truths that are invariant.  Is there a valid &quot;larger interest&quot; that justifies the destruction of people&#039;s homes and neighborhoods?  

I&#039;ll quote Anthony Gregory, who has a gift for words surpassing mine, to address the the claim of &quot;just compensation&#039;&quot;:

&quot;Oftentimes, the state claims it is offering a &quot;fair market value&quot; for the property it seeks to seize, but this is a sham. The market price for something is, by definition, the price that both parties consent to. In a fair market exchange, each party gives up something he values less for something he values more, or else he wouldn&#039;t agree to it.

It is only through such a voluntary transaction that we can determine what something&#039;s market value is in the first place. Market value is not universal, but particular to the assets exchanged in a specific transaction. For any given piece of property, there can be no market value without market exchange.&quot;

Source: http://mises.org/daily/2379

For those curious about issues related to those raised here, I reccommend Murray N. Rothbard&#039;s &quot;Man, Economy and State&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a film like this to bring the human cost surrounding &#8216;eminent domain&#8217; close to people; my thanks go to Jordan and all involved in making it.</p>
<p>But to derive lessons from such histories we must go beyond the particular and seek truths that are invariant.  Is there a valid &#8220;larger interest&#8221; that justifies the destruction of people&#8217;s homes and neighborhoods?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll quote Anthony Gregory, who has a gift for words surpassing mine, to address the the claim of &#8220;just compensation&#8217;&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oftentimes, the state claims it is offering a &#8220;fair market value&#8221; for the property it seeks to seize, but this is a sham. The market price for something is, by definition, the price that both parties consent to. In a fair market exchange, each party gives up something he values less for something he values more, or else he wouldn&#8217;t agree to it.</p>
<p>It is only through such a voluntary transaction that we can determine what something&#8217;s market value is in the first place. Market value is not universal, but particular to the assets exchanged in a specific transaction. For any given piece of property, there can be no market value without market exchange.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://mises.org/daily/2379" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/daily/2379</a></p>
<p>For those curious about issues related to those raised here, I reccommend Murray N. Rothbard&#8217;s &#8220;Man, Economy and State&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://mises.org/rothbard/mes/chap15d.asp" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/rothbard/mes/chap15d.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: serpico009</title>
		<link>http://jordanmechner.com/chavez-ravine/#comment-3022</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nadia

The Bullfrog Films prices are for colleges, high schools, libraries that are buying the film to show to students or groups continually over time. That&#039;s their main market. The high price includes a public performance rights license that allows the institutions to do this and comply with copyright law.

I did a quick google search, and it&#039;s available on Amazon.com for home use for less than $20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nadia</p>
<p>The Bullfrog Films prices are for colleges, high schools, libraries that are buying the film to show to students or groups continually over time. That&#8217;s their main market. The high price includes a public performance rights license that allows the institutions to do this and comply with copyright law.</p>
<p>I did a quick google search, and it&#8217;s available on Amazon.com for home use for less than $20.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://jordanmechner.com/chavez-ravine/#comment-2007</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Ry Cooder album is worth a listen too. 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chavez-Ravine-Ry-Cooder/dp/B0009353IW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Ry Cooder album is worth a listen too.<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chavez-Ravine-Ry-Cooder/dp/B0009353IW?tag=wp-amazon-associate-21" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chavez-Ravine-Ry-Cooder/dp/B0009353IW?tag=wp-amazon-associate-21</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://jordanmechner.com/chavez-ravine/#comment-1956</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chavez Ravine story is mentioned in Michael Connelly&#039;s novel Echo Park, which I&#039;m re-reading at the moment. Fiction and reality connect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chavez Ravine story is mentioned in Michael Connelly&#8217;s novel Echo Park, which I&#8217;m re-reading at the moment. Fiction and reality connect!</p>
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		<title>By: jordanmechner.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chavez Ravine DVD now on Amazon</title>
		<link>http://jordanmechner.com/chavez-ravine/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>jordanmechner.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chavez Ravine DVD now on Amazon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] happy to report that Chavez Ravine: A Los Angeles Story &#8211; a short documentary I wrote and directed in 2003 about the Mexican-American village in the heart of L.A. that got replaced by Dodger Stadium &#8212; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] happy to report that Chavez Ravine: A Los Angeles Story &#8211; a short documentary I wrote and directed in 2003 about the Mexican-American village in the heart of L.A. that got replaced by Dodger Stadium &#8212; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nadia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, I&#039;d say it&#039;s really xpensive at bullfrog  - bullfrog wants 195 for the dvd, and 45 to rent.. wowza... I really want to see this film but i&#039;m a starving artist.. like really starving, i&#039;m a painter... can you get a copy  to vidiots.. ? I have heard GREAT things about this film really want to see it 

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s really xpensive at bullfrog  &#8211; bullfrog wants 195 for the dvd, and 45 to rent.. wowza&#8230; I really want to see this film but i&#8217;m a starving artist.. like really starving, i&#8217;m a painter&#8230; can you get a copy  to vidiots.. ? I have heard GREAT things about this film really want to see it </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Elbryan42</title>
		<link>http://jordanmechner.com/chavez-ravine/#comment-38</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, have to track down this movie. Sounds intriguing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, have to track down this movie. Sounds intriguing.</p>
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